Was Disney Racist?

Nine Offensive Characters from Disney Cartoons

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Song of the South VHS cover - copyright 1946 Walt Disney Company
Song of the South VHS cover - copyright 1946 Walt Disney Company
Cracked takes on "The Nine Most Offensive Disney Stereotypes." Here's my response to that article.

This writer remembers sitting in on a "classic movie night" where a certain segment of the audience felt they needed to demonstrate how politically correct they were by mocking the old movies they were watching.

Classics like The Philadelphia Story and Fantasia were mercilessly torn apart by individuals, desperate to prove that they were more politically correct than the rest of us plebes, who just wanted to catch some classic flicks.

Cracked's Ben Joseph suffers from a similar ailment when he slams various Disney flicks, from Fantasia to Aladdin, for racial insensitivity (Part #1 is over here). In doing so, Joseph applies a 21st Century morality to movies, shorts and books made, in some cases, nearly 70 years ago.

The accompanying YouTube sequences have been removed, likely because of Disney's legal beagles.

Does Joseph have a point? In several cases, yes. However, in his haste to be holier than thou, he plays fast and loose with the facts.

4) Sunflower the Centaur from Fantasia (1940)

Again, another relic from a bygone era. Fantasia originally featured Sunflower, a black centaur, who cheerfully helps the white centaurs get ready for their dates in The Pastoral Symphony. Disney, realizing his error, excised the sequence from subsequent releases of the film but Joseph never lets us forget it.

Once again, forgetting for the moment that he's going after a film that's nearly 70 years old, Joseph actually counts Sunflower's later deletion as a further calumny.

"(To) make matters worse," he thunders, "they started categorically denying Sunflower's existence with the Fantasia re-release in 1960. How does that possibly make things better?"

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

3) The Indians from Peter Pan (1953)

Confession time: this writer hasn't yet seen Peter Pan so there's no response to Joseph's assertions about "Tiger Lilly's traditional Native American hussy dance" and the ways in which "Native American's misogynistic tendencies are played for laughs."

Joseph is right in that Disney's depiction of Native Americans was inaccurate and offensive. But yet again, he's applying 2007 morals to a 54-year-old movie. Does that justify Peter Pan's patronizing portrayal of Natives? No. Does Joseph give Disney credit for the more balanced images in Pocahontas? Heck no.

2) Uncle Remus from Song of the South (1946)

Song of the South has always been a popular target for those who want to portray Walt Disney as a right wing bigot. This live-action/animated hybrid has never been released on DVD, due to concerns about its depiction of Uncle Remus, the cheerful plantation worker in the Post-Civil War era.

Joseph jumps on the "slam Song of the South" bandwagon, saying "It's as if someone made a children's musical about Jews in post-World War II Germany that had a number titled 'Hey! Nothing Bad Has Happened to Us, Ever.'" He also points out that James Blaskett, who played Uncle Remus, wasn't allowed to attend the movie's premiere in Atlanta, but misses the fact that Blaskett received an Oscar for his work on the flick.

Joseph's assertion that the movie is offensive to black people gets trashed by an African American, former Disney animator Floyd Norman.

"Lest we forget," he writes, "many African Americans still love Song of the South."

It's a little hard to denounce something, folks, when the alleged target isn't getting offended.

1) Thursday from Mickey Mouse and the Boy Thursday (1948 children's book)

In this obscure children's book from 1948, Mickey Mouse accidentally receives a West African native in the mail. Hijinks ensue, which includes Thursday (a riff on Friday from Robinson Crusoe) killing Mickey's radio and worshipping Goofy as a tribal god.

"The book compiles almost every offensive preconception of Africa lurking in the American subconscious," says Joseph.

Keep in mind that the "fish out of water" scenario has been a comedy staple since . . . forever. Also keep in mind that this book has been out of print, most likely since before most people surfing the Internet were actually born. Remember that Disney's depictions of minorities weren't exactly out of step with mainstream society back then. By Joseph's own (pained) admission, Disney "was almost progressive" in his treatment of blacks and other non-Europeans. Look at the larger attitudes of the day, and this book starts to look like Albert Schweitzer.

But no, Joseph has to pull this obscure skeleton out of Disney's closet so he can show us how smart and progressive he is.

Racism in Disney Cartoons? An Animator Has the Last Word

The final note on this subject goes to Floyd Norman, who was the only black animator working at the Mouse House during the 1950's and 60's.

"Overly sensitive people see racial or ethnic slights in every image," Norman once wrote. "And in their zeal to sanitize and pasteurize everything, they've taken all the fun out of cartoon making.

"I've had the pleasure of speaking with the late Bob Clampett about his 1943 cartoon, Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarfs (Clampett's notorious all-black take on Disney's Snow White). I've chatted with Ward Kimball about animating the crows in Walt Disney's Dumbo . . . Although some might call these comical images racially insensitive, I merely see them as funny."

Amen.

Dominic von Riedemann, by Brian Tao

Dominic von Riedemann - Dominic is the Animated Film Feature Writer, and winner of 11 Suite 101 Editors' Choice Awards.

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Feb 2, 2009 2:42 AM
Guest :
Walt Disney is not racist! think about it's a small world after all...hmmm, let's see, that's about ALL the kids of the world. Black, white, asain, jewish. comeon people... get real
Feb 20, 2009 8:11 AM
Guest :
he is not racist!! come on!! he has characters from all over the world!!
Feb 26, 2009 10:47 AM
Guest :
Walt Disney wasnt racist?!? He was a member of the Nazi party of America for christs sake, of course he was racist!
Feb 27, 2009 9:42 AM
Dominic von Riedemann :
Here's what The Straight Dope has to say about whether or not Disney was a fascist (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1623/was-walt-disney-a-fascist):< br />
"A few white supremacist groups still cherish (the notion that Disney was a fascist). Their best evidence is a misreading of the short film 'Der Fuehrer's Face' (1943), in which Donald is seen in a Nazi uniform, swastikas and all. In the end we find out it's all a nightmare, but that doesn't dissuade the racists."

Disney animator Art Babbitt claimed to have seen Disney at meetings of the German American Bund, a pro-Nazi organization: "There were open meetings, anybody could attend and I wanted to see what was going on myself," he said. "On more than one occasion I observed Walt Disney and [Disney's lawyer] Gunther Lessing there, along with a lot of prominent Nazi-afflicted Hollywood personalities. Disney was going to meetings all the time."

Getting back to SD: "For the most part Disney doesn't appear to have had strong political views--his politics seemed to turn on whatever it took to keep his studio going. It's likely his interest in the German American Bund sprang from a desire to forge relationships with Germany for possible film distribution there. On the other hand, there was a lot of antisemitic feeling in the Disney studio. While no one can specifically attribute bias to Disney himself, Jewish people were ready fodder for the animators' gags and Disney approved every scene in every short the studio made."

A little background would help here. Back in the mid-20th Century, every visible minority was comedy fodder: Jews, Blacks, etc. Looked at in a 21st century light, many of those depictions would come off as racist.

Disney was certainly conservative and anti-communist. Fascist however, seems a bit of a stretch.
Apr 22, 2009 2:51 PM
Guest :
Come on people!! If you have nothing better to do than pick on Disney movies for racism you have no life! go get a hobby! geeesh. if it was a movie made in the 30s, back when racism was ok and tolerated then of coarse there not going to realize it. what would you like DIsney to do? remake all their movies so it cant offend anyone... might as well not make movies at all.
May 9, 2009 3:08 PM
Guest :
Does everything have be turned into a Racist Issue ??? I personally am sick to death of it. Can we just accept Disney as the wholesome family tradition that it is??? I go to Disney theme parks and see people of EVERY race religion and color. They dont seem to have an issue.
Jul 15, 2009 4:55 PM
Guest :
yes disney was racist. so was lindbergh, and ford. in fact, it was probably a rare occurrence back then to find someone who wasnt racist. they may have done good things for society...but they were not good people on a personal level. as much as the good they did. who they were should be known too. let the individual come to their own conclusions about what to think about them.

Jul 18, 2009 3:54 AM
Guest :
Actually he was very racist small world after all doesn't feature any jew's it show white people black people asians and polish.... that basically it Disney is racist in all look at Pochantus they talk about killing savages and Dumbo Drop they talk about killing every Disney movie is based around a orphan or they dont have one parent!
But back to small world after all come on not one did I see a star of david on it!!! or Mexicans... but it shows the myans the incans and all of them which our ansectors slaughtered most off and it is very very stereo typical!!!
Jul 29, 2009 10:14 AM
Guest :
I rode its a small world two days ago and would have to say i saw Jews, Mexicans and the works.....trust me i looked. No they didn't have the Star of David but that is assuming all Jews practice Judaism, lets put a giant cross over American representation to say we all are Christians. Who is being stereotypical now?
Sep 1, 2009 4:27 AM
Guest :
well Walt Disney may not be racist, but the modern day producers might be as i picked up from an episode of Phineas & Ferb called Night of the livin Gelatine in which they make a giant swimming pool full of Grape Gelatin( with a certain mystery flavour added by their presumably indian friend Baljeet) the gelatine eventually turns evil and Phineas says maybe it' the other flavour or something and Baljeet eventually admits it was curry....Blatant racism right?
Oct 5, 2009 7:33 AM
Guest :
yes disney productions were racist... why deny the fact... when jerry hits tom over the head with a pan... its sits on his head like a rice patty hat, and tom's eyes are squinted shut... this cartoon still plays today in 2009... it doesn't bother me. but what does is when people deny the fact.. stop burying the past and face these racist demons which plagued 20th century America.
Oct 5, 2009 7:10 PM
Guest :
Walt Disney is racist. People should stop trying to deny it. Its better for the truth to be out. Does saying he isn't make you feel better about watching movies that have racism embedded in it? Are you afraid that by admitting he really was a racist that you are racist yourself or that you condone racism, so by saying he isn't somehow "protects" you and makes you feel better about it?

Come on! Stop justifying it. No one cares if you like Disney or not! Pretending he is not racist is only denying the truth, which actually makes you appear racist or someone who condones racism.

Disney obviously didn't mind if people thought he was racist, otherwise he would not make allusions in his movies about his racist beliefs....so stop defending someone who more than likely did not want to be defended in the first place!
Oct 5, 2009 8:30 PM
Dominic von Riedemann :
BTW, Tom and Jerry was produced by Hanna-Barbera for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, not Disney.
Oct 28, 2009 1:24 PM
Guest :
What about the fact that the first black Disney character beside the 1940's Fantasia wasn't until recently and the FIRST black Disney princess doesn't come out until 2010. Walt may not have been racist but someone there for damn sure is!
Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM
Guest :
U R stpuid, gt ur facts str8 fopr 1ce! Walt Dizney's raceist, you's just apolojist for hiz crymz!
Dec 12, 2009 9:13 PM
Guest :
Princess and the Frog
Feb 1, 2010 1:02 PM
Guest :
I'm gonna look at this from both sides. yes ultra pc lefties are going to complain about it. however i can guarantee the writer of this article is white and from a privileged middle class background.
Feb 1, 2010 5:39 PM
Dominic von Riedemann :
[quote]i can guarantee the writer of this article is white and from a privileged middle class background.[/quote]


Actually, I'm descended from 9 generations of Mongolian yak herders. My net worth last year was tabulated at 20 yaks. They're extra special; they teleport.
Feb 3, 2010 12:46 PM
Guest :
this article focuses too much on Joseph's 'selfish, conceited' motives and uses this in an attempt bolster his own argument.
Mar 10, 2010 7:23 PM
Guest :
first BLACK disney princess, pocahontas was native american, and the settlers at the time did refer to them as savages, so did colombus and the rest of medieval europe. ntm, everyone in alladdin was arab. both films produced no less than 40 years after disneys death
Mar 23, 2010 12:42 PM
Guest :
i think he was racist. that black centaur chick they tried to censor out of fantasia proved it
Mar 27, 2010 11:30 AM
Guest :
Walt Disney was racist! He was Donald the Duck in a nazi uniform. Saluting Adolf Hitler, and he's not racist?
Come on, get real!
Mar 27, 2010 5:34 PM
Guest :
This article reminded me of something one of my friends said about Clint Eastwood's role in Gran Torino; 'He isn't racist, he's just old'
Apr 2, 2010 6:14 PM
Guest :
First of all, I had no idea that Floyd Norman was the representative of all black people, so evidently his opinion is the only one that matters.

Secondly, the fact that you label "Mickey Mouse and the Boy Thursday" a simple "fish out of water" tale grossly ignores the fact that Thursday was portrayed as a simple minded and savage African native, who Mickey is forced to "help"- to "be patient and teach him the right way to do things". Does this ring familiar with the notion of the White Man's Burden? For those of you that don't know, the White Man's Burden is the idea that it was the responsibility of the white man to "civilize" and "save" the African from is "backwards" ways. The term was coined by Rudyard Kipling, the same man who authored "The Jungle Book", which was later produced as- you guessed it- a Disney movie.

Thirdly, you can't defend the character of Sunflower. She's a centaur in black face, serving as a happy Mammy-type figure to the obviously Aryan centaurs. Sure, she was edited out twenty years later, but her creation shows that Disney animators had a level of consciousness about black stereotypical roles, and they found these stereotypes acceptable enough to put in their movie. It's like when Don Imus made his offensive comments about Black female basketball players: He can recant his statement all he wants, but he still revealed a key component to the way he thinks about Black women.

Finally, Disney characters like the crows from "Dumbo" and Uncle Remus are representations of African American stereotypes that have been around for centuries- in these cases, those of the Sambo and the Uncle Tom.

Yes, Disney was racist. Yes, these movies were made in a time where being racist was accepted. And yes, producers have been trying to change and become more aware of the images they're portraying. But to deny their existence assumes that stereotyping people- whether blatantly or subliminally- has no effect on the people being portrayed or the people viewing the stereotype from the outside. So please, stop defending Disney's work because your childhood is based around it. That doesn't make it right, but being aware of the bullshit in these movies makes you less susceptible to the acceptance of these images.

Also, if the Small World ride is the only example of inclusion you can see in early Disney work, does it negate the fact of these other racist images? I didn't think so either.
Apr 4, 2010 6:17 PM
Guest :
These rebuttles were not persuasive at all. The term 'a bygone from another era' is a really bad defense, and the smouldering sarcasm seems to be used as a coat for plausable explainations.
Apr 21, 2010 4:54 AM
Guest :
The evidence speaks for itself; read Gabler's book; Disney didn't want to employ blacks at his theme parks because he thought they would "spoil the illusion". Gee, I guess that isn't racist, huh?
Apr 28, 2010 6:41 PM
Guest :
Walt Disney was a White Supremacist. Seriously, he was. But that doesn't mean he was an ignorant bastard, going around punching and stabbing people who aren't White...

...Look at the older films like Pinocchio. Was it about Hitler? Was it about death to all Jews, Blacks, and so forth? Or was it about a wooden boy named Pinocchio? Hell, was White Supremacy even mentioned in that film? Or even White Pride? No, the moral of that story was to be good, and listen to your parents and be nice. Nothing more.
May 19, 2010 8:42 AM
Guest :
He was not racist. Most of the movies that are considered "racist" were made when he was dead. If someone is dead, they can't actually "be" something. People need to back up there facts like if he really was part of the Nazi party. Sources people.
Jun 14, 2010 9:29 AM
Guest :
Walt disney was a racist but at the time (1900-1960) that was deemed "acceptable". I am not saying in any shape or form that this is ok and i was mad at some of the things in old disney cartoons/ old merrie melodies (e.g in uncle toms cabin cartoon, at the begging they portrayed black people as stupid, mindless, toothless, common, poor and lazy monkeys- as common name for balck people in those days). And im also definately not say forget about the rascism in those days becuase it's happening and can never be erased but we can slightly move on.
And by the way who ever wrote this about the song of the south, it doesn't matter that he got an oscar later on, he starred in the movie at the time, if they didn't want to let him go to the premire they shouldn't let him star, the basically used him.
Jul 11, 2010 3:04 AM
Guest :
This is great. I literally just got off that other guys website. I'm 15 and I watched these movies and I didn't see it that way at all. Even at 15 I say that guy is full of it. He's way over analyzing. He's looking for things to say is racist. He's reading into things to much. I'm surprised he didn't say something about Raffiki from Lion King being a stereotypical African. Raffinki is one of my favorite characters:) I was shocked at the quote from the book about showing the guy off but you know it's not like it was written 2 years ago. Maybe that was ok to say back than but it's not being said now. If he really wanted to make this point he would make the same article using Disney movies from this decade. But I'm gonna guess he wouldn't be able to do that:)
Jul 20, 2010 6:46 PM
Guest :
in the end disney did portray racism. most of the movies were made during a time of racism and discrimination. so its is likely tht disney have racism in its movies. so yes indeed disney was a racist company back then to put stuff like in a childrens film, bascily teaching them that. they might not be noticing it but their minds a surly pickin it up. my question is is disney still putting racism in their shows today? if u can find anything then they are racist.
Sep 16, 2010 4:49 PM
Guest :
WHO CARES? A SPADE IS A SPADE
Sep 22, 2010 10:42 AM
Guest :
this is a great film and should never be viewed as anything else. My husband remembers it from his child hood seeing this and he loved it. He is 55 yrs old but still remembers it. This should be released on dvd and should have no problems with people viewing it as racist it is a great movie.
Dec 3, 2010 11:48 PM
Mallory Giunchigliani :
Go watch Peter Pan. It's my favorite animated movie of all time. Even the Native American scene, which is, yes, stereotypical, but accompanied by a catchy tune. While watching this scene, it is important to remember that, not only was the movie made in 1953, it takes place in Victorian-era England, and Neverland is the creation of a little girl's imagination. Young girls in that era did not know much about Native Americans beyond stereotypes.
Other than that: great article! It's great to see other people defending Disney against all those bandwagoners who like to rag on people who can't defend themselves. :)
Mar 11, 2011 3:08 PM
Guest :
I agree with most of this article, but I must say that a few select people not being offended by it doesn't mean that the demographic as a whole isn't.
Oftentimes people who are the target of prejudice believe that these prejudices reflect the natural or normal order and therefore defend them.

Bashing people for stuff they did in a time when people just didn't know better is definitely wrong, though.
Mar 11, 2011 3:24 PM
Guest :
This makes no sense. Everyone right now i think is being a bit bias. If you are an overly sensitive when it comes to different races or your races, then of course you will critique everything known to man for your liking. My opinion is that: WHO GIVES A CRAP! Walt disney made some pretty cool movies, you gotta admit it. If it just so happens that we all have a race issue then we'll all be drawing stick people, so seriously grow a brain and seee the images and movies in another perspective
Mar 11, 2011 3:25 PM
Guest :
This makes no sense. Everyone right now i think is being a bit bias. If you are an overly sensitive when it comes to different races or your races, then of course you will critique everything known to man for your liking. My opinion is that: WHO GIVES A CRAP! Walt disney made some pretty cool movies, you gotta admit it. If it just so happens that we all have a race issue then we'll all be drawing stick people, so seriously grow a brain and seee the images and movies in another perspective
Apr 24, 2011 1:04 PM
Guest :
watch the movie Dumbo and watch for the part when the black men are setting up the circus by themselves in the crappy weather singing a depressing song and with absolutely no sign of any other coloured people helping. the only other help that they got was from the elephants.
May 12, 2011 12:17 PM
Guest :
Another white middle class raised writer trying to denounce the very real possibility that the things he enjoyed as a child were deeply racist. The era that these movies were created were racist, but to go back and say, on second thought, they were really not racist, just puts a blanket on real issues. Also, the actor from Song of the South did not win an Oscar, he received an Honorary Academy Award. He wasn't allowed to go to the premiere and he wouldn't have been allowed to go to the Awards show either.
Aug 14, 2011 11:59 PM
Guest :
While I agree that there is a certain unfairness in judging what was socially acceptable at the time with today's morals, we can't just wash it away with the "It was a different time" argument. I know it is an extreme but the same could be said of Nazi Germany. "Now we know concentration camps are wrong but we can't fault Germany for using them. It was just the German political climate at the time"
Sep 17, 2011 2:38 AM
Guest :
Phineas and ferb is sooooo racist to candians , indans , bengalis , pakis , iranis , afghanistanis , mongolians , japanese , chinease and of course there racist to tony the cala
Apr 5, 2012 8:43 AM
Guest :
He wasn't a nazi. He produced anti-nazi propaganda for Canada and USA during WWII.
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